Fallos detectados en los clio 2 (2001-2007)

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   Informe completo de incidencias en este modelo de auto. Pongo en negrita original ingles y en cursiva una traducción libre:

- la parte diesel que explica bien la relación que hay entre la EGR y el turbo. Con lo malo de quedarte sin turbo si la EGR no funciona adecuadamente.

- la parte gasolina de evidencias de destrozos en la correa de distribución antes de lo que dice Renault.

What's Bad
Complaints of seat material fraying. Complaint of rattling sunroof.

Some automatics have been prone to surging - cured by replacing faulty inlet manifold gaskets. Various other engine problems.

On petrol models, fuel tanks may pressurise, expelling petrol.

June 2001 Renault was rated by Motor Warranty Direct as Britain's joint 4th worst out of 22 marques for used car warranty claims. 18th from bottom for reliabilty in Auto Express 2002 reader survey of 100 models. Renault had above average warranty repair costs in 2003 Warranty Direct Reliability index (index 114.24 v/s lowest 31.93). Average warranty repair costs in 2003 Warranty Direct Reliability index (index 101.16 v/s lowest 31.93). Link:- www.reliabilityindex.co.uk 27th from bottom out of 137 models in 2003 Top Gear survey. Least reliable out of 10 Superminis in 2006 Reliability Index survey. Yert in complete contradiction in the 2006 Which survey, the same model Clio came second best among superminis with a 92% score.

Replaced with new car on same platform as new Nissan Micra in 2005.

What to Watch Out For
Reports of coil failures, similar to those affecting VAG cars. If this happens, must replace all four coils, not just one, or it could re-occur with another coil.

On 3-door models, clips holding electric front windows in place can pop out, the window winds up outside the doorframe and the regulator cables can stretch. Costs Ã,£200 - Ã,£300 to fix, but some dealers will fight for a 50% contribution from Renault even for cars up to 4 years old.

Reports of coil spring failures on 3 year old Clio 172s.

1.2 16vs seem to be suffering a lot of timing belt failures at mileages as low as 36,000. Best to change the belts at 5 years or 40k miles max. On 1,149cc D4F 16v and D7F 8v engines it is essential to change the timing belt, tensioners and the water pump every 3 years or 36,000 miles (whichever comes first). Early timing belt failures not unknown on RenaultSport Clio 172s, so best to change belt, tensioner and all pulleys at 4 years of 40k miles whichever comes first. Same goes for 1.4 16v engines on which the waterpump is driven by the timing belt.

1,2 16vs parecen estar sufriendo un montón de fallos correa dentada en kilometraje tan bajos como 36.000 millas. Mejor cambiar las correas a los 5 años o 40k millas max.  En 1149 D4F cc 16v y D7F 8v motores es esencial para cambiar la correa de distribución, tensores y la bomba de agua cada 3 años o 36,000 millas (lo que ocurra primero). El principal fallo de la correa de la distribución no es desconocido en Renault en el Clio 172S, así que mejor cambiar la correa, tensor y todas las poleas en los 4 años de 40k millas lo que ocurra primero. Lo mismo va para los motores 1.4 16v en la que la bomba de agua es impulsada por la correa de distribución.

Expect kerbing damage, easily spotted by damaged protruding plastic wheeltrims.

Continued high incidence of automatic transmission failures.

Manual transmissions prone to wearing their top casing that can necessitate a rebuild after 3 - 4 years and around 18k miles.

Automatic ATF cooler sits in engine radiator and can fracture, allowing coolant into transmission that wrecks it.

Jacking points can weaken at the front, and shape of jack head can punch a dent in the adjacent sill.

Unlike earlier Clio and Clio based Kangoo, this mode has a rear hinged bonnet. Make sure bonnet catch is adequately greased or it may not catch properly. The plastic secondary catch on these bonnets can fail so if the primary catch pops open air pressure can fling the bonnet back over the windscreen of the car leaving the driver driving 'blind'. This has had frequent exposure on BBC Watchdog.

Previous model problem of airbags being accidentally triggered can re-occur with this model of Clio.

On 1.5DCIs EGR valve should open to allow carbon dioxide, which acts as a cooling gas) into the combustion chambers when the engine is under load (>30% boost). This allows the combustion chamber temperature to drop and thus the temperature of the exhaust gases. If it sticks in the closed position the exhaust gas temperature will rise causing a) the turbo bearings to fail and b) engine oil into the induction system. This can cause the engine to run on its crankcase oil until it is either stalled or goes bang. Problems with EGR valves in Renault dCi engines are often the cause of rough running when the valve is stuck in the open position as well. In several cases turbos have blown but the EGR valve has not been replaced. Inevitably the new turbo unit will not last long.

El 1.5DCIs la válvula EGR se debe abrir para permitir que el dióxido de carbono, que actúa como un (gas de refrigeración) en las cámaras de combustión cuando el motor está bajo carga.  Esto permite que la temperatura de la cámara de combustión baje y por lo tanto la temperatura de los gases de escape. Si se pega en la posición cerrada la temperatura de los gases de escape se elevará causando:
a) los rodamientos de turbo fallen y
b) el aceite de motor en el sistema de inducción. Esto puede causar que el motor funcione mal y se rompa.

Problemas con las válvulas EGR en los motores dCi de Renault son a menudo la causa de diamantes en bruto en funcionamiento cuando la válvula está pegada en la posición abierta, así.  En varios casos, turbos han volado, pero la válvula EGR no se ha reemplazado.  Inevitablemente, la unidad de turbo nuevo, no durará mucho tiempo.

Not unknown for older cars to fail MoTs on corroded rear brake pipes and main suspension arm bushes. The bushes can be extracted and replaced using a special tool.

Recalls
15-2-2002: Recall of 1,574 1.4 16vs with MGI motorised throttle housing and Sirius 34 injection computer due to incorrect locking of connector to throttle housing causing instability in injection system resulting in engine hesitation and idle speed instability.

2-12-2002: 1,861 Clios and Twingos recalled because of risk of loss of brake servo assistance due to incorrect poritioning of air pressure sensor in inlet manifold. Position to be checked and corrected where necessary.

11-8-2003: 2,381 Clios recalled because front or left front suspension arm may break if subject to impact. Check arms for codes of faulty batch and replace where necessary.

September 2004: 54 reg Clios recalled to have their wheels re-balanced.

14-3-07 Renault issued a statement about bonnets of Clio IIs:

The media has highlighted cases of Renault customers who have reported that the bonnet of their Clio II has opened whilst the car was being driven. Renault has liaised fully with the independent governing body, the Vehicle and Operator Services Agency (VOSA), on the issue and both Renault and VOSA have concluded that the bonnet catch mechanism of the Clio II has no design or construction defect.

However Renault recognises that reports of this issue may have caused concern to our customers and, for those who have experienced the incident, some distress. Consequently, we will contact all Clio II owners as part of a reassurance plan, customer safety being of paramount importance to Renault.

We have closely monitored and analysed every case we have received, and a dedicated Task Force of Renaultââ,¬â,,¢s worldwide experts has investigated this issue, including carrying out vehicle inspections. We also kept VOSA fully updated throughout.

Renault and VOSA have concluded that the mechanism of the bonnet catch on Clio II is safe, reliable and fit for purpose, providing the vehicle is correctly maintained and the bonnet is closed as prescribed. Our investigations discovered several cases of poor maintenance on Clio IIs where the bonnet had opened whilst the car was being driven.

Therefore, as part of our reassurance plan and in co-operation with the relevant authorities, we will write to all Clio II customers inviting them into their nearest Renault dealership, where the opening and closing mechanisms of the bonnet will be checked to ensure the correct maintenance is being undertaken. If poor maintenance is detected, the appropriate corrective action will be carried out at no cost to the customer.

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Un saludo.

[javier_vasco]

esta bien, es lo que recomiendan todos, hasta renault.

si dice 36000 - 40000 millas para cambiar correas
1 milla = 1.61 km
asi que tenes 58000-64500 km para el cambio de correa
es lo correcto me parece
saludos
javier_vasco